I made a lovely batch of snickerdoodles… well, ALMOST snickerdoodles. The few recipes I found didn’t use cream of tartar and I doubted my sanity that this is the defining ingredient. And was too brain fogged to research more. But later, refreshed by several cinnamon coated sugar cookies who WANTED to be snickerdoodles, I realized I had been right. Boys and girls, don’t believe a snickerdoodle recipe that does not include cream of tartar.

We actually got a few days of summer finally her in the Northeast. In the 80s, hot and humid. Except the evening I dropped off my sweetie’s car at the garage to walk home — at which point the rainstorm hit. Ha! But it was lovely. I like walking in the rain, real rain (as long as it’s warm out), and then I love the showering when home and putting on your evening dry bathrobe. Very comfy.

09/05/14 Bygones Being Bygones

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  1. Since I developed my dairy allergy I have come to miss snickerdoodles.

  2. @Frith_Ra, I made them vegan, using this recipe: http://food.squidoo.com/vegansnickerdoodles
    For oil, I used coconut oil. Of course, cream of tartar should be added.

  3. Olivia made me go “Awwwwww!”

  4. She really has her heart set on Jewelfallout.

  5. Wow, she is REALLY bad at this. Photo diaries…

  6. Minando, it’s ALL her photo diaries. Shudder.

  7. How much cream of tartar? Thanks

  8. @Julia, for a recipe this size… about 2 tsp.

  9. I’ve made a note of the recipe, but be advised: you may be violating your terms of veganism. Not being willing to leave well enough alone (Hey! The public is not allowed behind the curtain!) I did some research. 99% of the sources said it was OK for vegan cooking, because it was made from wine residue. However, PETA, that organization noted for reason and restraint, insists that it is NOT vegan, due to the fact that most wine is “fined” (filtered) using non-vegan materials.

    Considering the level outrage I found on the vegan websites about this (consisting of a huge chorus of “meh”), most vegans don’t seem willing to push the issue. I am going to try the recipe using coconut oil — an unusual situation for me as I usually reserve my coconut oil use to making soap and popping popcorn — and I’ll let you know how it turns out WITH the CoT.

    Remember: Meat Is Murder! (Tasty, tasty murder…)

  10. BTW, don’t forget to post the corrected recipe over on Cookrookery. Thanks!

  11. Non sentients killed isn’t murder, it is death, but not murder. Only with sentients. And I think I could put elephants, cetaceans, maybe some octopi from Capri and certain birds on that list. But we would have to have a generally more educated and aware civilization in the area of intelligence and empathy much less neurology and behavior.

    Olivia, we have much in common, on paper. At least in some quarters I have something others want in way of information. Just not necessarily as friendship. I can identify with her. Only I don’t like baiting others though.

  12. @Muzhik, being vegan, to me, is just trying to do less harm. No terms. πŸ™‚ So, thank you. I will do some research and think on it.

    @Night_Gaunt, actually, yes, ONE of the definitions is to kill another human. But there is the more general: to end another being’s life. Related the root word for “mortality.” So yes, meat is technically murder.

    Plus, @Muzhik was (I presume) quoting the Smiths.

  13. I have come to terms with the idea that others must suffer so that we may live — a sad fact of being corporeal creatures who use resources. That said, I choose to only eat meat like 10 times per year, and it’s always an intentional act.

  14. @Christopher, given that plants are as mortal as animals, why draw the line there? I can see a valid utilitarian argument for veganism, but the moral one often seems to be poorly defined if it doesn’t involve sentience.

    Having said that, I think “trying to do less harm” is very much the best approach.

  15. @Christopher, actually, I was quoting a tee shirt I saw on a guy a while back. The girl he was with was wearing a shirt that said “PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals”.

    What can I say? I live in a state that is a major producer of meat. Kids around here (even the ones living in the cities) know that it’s OK to play with your food, just don’t give it names or celebrate its’ birthdays.

  16. @Neil, morally we all draw lines wherever we do. I draw my personal moral line of eating between plants and animals (which I disagree about being poorly defined, it find it to be a fairly clear definition). You, between sentient and non-sentient.

    Regarding, “mortality” sure, i guess you’re right. I was only discussing the word “murder,” and saying it’s not just people. πŸ™‚

    @Muzhik, ha! Well, his tee shirt was probably quoting the Smiths. πŸ˜‰

  17. Technically killing to survive would not be murder. Certainly for self defense is also not legally murder either. So I would disagree with your assessment on “meat is murder” jingoism. Not in a court of law that I am aware.

    There is disagreement over if plants have awareness or not. If they really do then we will just have to lump it that we eat dead things, usually by killing them.

  18. But we don’t kill animals to survive, nor in self defense (unless you’ve got a big beard and are lost in Alaska). But sure, you’re saying in the court of law. I’m saying the word itself. We’re both right, because they are different definitions.

    I’ll leave that “intelligent plants” debate to others. We personally draw the lines wherever we do.

  19. Read Spacetrawler last night and One Way today. πŸ™‚

  20. I prefer to think that I’m murdering plants as I eat or cook them.

  21. @KNO3 — two vegetarian quotes that spring to mind:

    I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants. ~A. Whitney Brown

    If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? ~Author Unknown

  22. @Christopher, the line between plants and animals is a very clear biological one (as long as you don’t worry about things like fungi, but that’s just me being pedantic). I meant that the justification for using that line as the demarcation between “being that deserves not to die” and “being that doesn’t matter too much” seems a bit arbitrary to me (whereas it definitely does seem the most logical place to put the demarcation if it’s based on minimising harm).

    Still, you’re right: we draw lines wherever we do. I hope I didn’t sound too critical.

  23. @Neil, that brings up the question: Is it OK to gerrymander the demarcation borders?

    (“Take THAT, people-who-use-cellphones-at-the-theater!”)

    • It may not be okay, but the borders between man and animal and too intelligent or not are constantly gerrymandered. People bend over backwards to avoid considering some apes or cetaceans or cephalopods or elephants or birds could be any way like them in intelligence or feeling. They’d rather consider them materials or meat robots to use without guilt. The same with the criteria for food. They don’t want to feel guilty about eating something that could be like a person, so they convenience the definitions. Using intelligence as a distinction might be unique to humans, too. Other intelligences might not care about intelligence as a criteria and worry only whether they say “Yes, sir!” to commands or to offers of seconds. Pigs are smarter than most animals, but we love our bacon, so we draw the line on the side of bacon. If pigs were to prove themselves smart enough to be people, many humans will gerrymander like hell to keep the line on the side of bacon. In interstellar relations, we may be gerrymandered as bacon or materials or servants if we can’t enforce our own position as line drawers.

  24. @Neil, no worries! And sorry if my hackles raised at all. πŸ™‚

  25. @Muzhik, yes, that’s my major concern: at times, it seems (to me) that the criterion is “like me / not like me” (or, more negatively “insufficiently/sufficiently beneath me”).

    @Christopher, likewise, no worries. (Should we be focussing more on the comic than on your cookery, now?)

  26. @Chrisopher we have slaughter houses so we don’t have to kill them ourselves. I too will leave the plant awareness/intelligence question for another time, maybe in the Quadrassic about 22 – 50 million years from now.

    Let me know when killing cows or pigs is murder and on the books, thanx.

    Just wondering where the story is going. Nice to not be certain in reading a story, what next will happen. The suspense is keeping me glued to it!

  27. I live by the scientific knowledge that humans are omnivores and that omnivore (and carnivore) biology cannot synthesize certain vital chemical compounds.

    Herbivore biology can synthesize those chemical compounds from the vegetable material herbivores consume. The compounds get stored in muscle tissue in forms that are usable by omnivore and carnivore biology.

    Among those compounds is vitamin B-12, which is essential to the development of brain and nerve tissue during gestation, growth to adulthood and for maintenance throughout life.

    If you think you can eat nothing but plants, without any supplementation of vitamins and other compounds obtainable naturally only by consuming the muscle tissue of animals – you are 100% wrong. Humans cannot eat like cows and survive, not without downing tons of vitamin pills, many of which are not as good (and cost a lot more) than simply eating the natural meat food you need, along with a proper balance of everything else that has the nutrients you need.

    The human body can store quite a bit of B-12 and will use it up. The problem comes when the tank runs dry. Run out of B-12 and your brain starts to go south, and not in a good way. Go for very long with no B-12 and the result will be permanent brain damage.

    Eat a steak. Save your brain. What could be easier than that?

  28. Taking a B-12 supplement seems easier to me.

  29. Wow. Somebody’s begging for an airlocking…

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